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Post by amybyrd21 Thu May 14, 2009 11:50 pm

Has any one seen this or get a subscritpion to it. It gives resources and articles on teaching creationism verses evaloution. I saw this at my son's doctor the other day. There is a kids version too but they did not have it there. She had them in the waiting room and the rooms too. My son loved the kids section in the big persons magazine as he calls it. They had a section on Dinasours. Now he is outside with a garden shovel and a paint brush digging up things in the yard looking for a dinasour that " God wiped out in the Noah flood." I was wondering if any one had seen this or gets it. I wanted to know if any one else like it.
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Post by Sonshine Fri May 15, 2009 1:31 am

I've never heard of it, but think I'll try to find it online. Smile Sounds good.
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Post by amybyrd21 Fri May 15, 2009 1:58 am

I hadnt seen it either until we were at the Drs office. They said the flood wiped out the dinasours. My son thought that was so cool. He loves the story of Noah. I think I am going to see if I can find a kids version to see what it looks like.
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Post by Sonshine Fri May 15, 2009 2:46 am

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Post by amybyrd21 Fri May 15, 2009 8:22 am

Ok I have a question and I may sound dumb for this. Does the Bible mention Dinasours? Hubby says the Bible is written about the people of the time and they were in the Middle East. And the dinasours were all over the place. The Answers magazine said the flood wiped them out. At the Drs office in one of the rooms she has a picture of Noah's Ark and it has the animals and dinasours in it. Why did the dinasours not make it? (I have to be prepared to answer this for my son) We have been talking about this this afternoon and have tried to think like he does so we can be prepared for all the questions in the car this weekend.
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Post by Sonshine Fri May 15, 2009 8:45 am

Here's a link that gives the most reasonable explanation IMO.

http://agards-bible-timeline.com/q3_bible_dinosaurs.html
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Post by amybyrd21 Fri May 15, 2009 8:48 am

thank you. We are expecting tons of questions from this from him. We were not ready for the Dinasours and the Bible discussion.
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Post by Sonshine Fri May 15, 2009 8:58 am

LOL How old is he again?
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Post by amybyrd21 Fri May 15, 2009 9:31 am

4 but he can come up with some really tough ones. He loves his cousin to teach his sunday school class. Then he comes home and tells us all about it. I had to loas up the dinasour page again so he can see and I quote " How God killed that dino" This is fascinating to him that they were killed in a flood. He already asked why did Noah not have him on there to save him.
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Post by Sonshine Fri May 15, 2009 10:27 am

LOL Kids really can make you think. It's a challenge at times teaching them the Bible, because they ARE full of questions. But it keeps me on my toes.
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Post by mountainmama Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:48 am

We get the Answers magazine. I have to fight the kids to get to read it. . .by the time it's my turn, it's a month later. LOL!

We visited the creation museum and really enjoyed it.

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Post by Sonshine Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:28 am

That would be neat, visiting the creation museum. Wish we had one closer.
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Post by Harvey_Birdman Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:30 am

Sonshine wrote:That would be neat, visiting the creation museum.  Wish we had one closer.
There used to be one in Florida, but it has gone the way of the dinosaurs. Pun intended.


I am a big fan of AiG. I have been reading there site for years, but I have never had Answers magazine. I bought the Answers Academy program, and we went through it during Bible study at Church. It is a very good program.
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Post by Farmfresh Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:31 am

The more closely you look the more real scientific investigation reveals the Creator.

Whether microscopic like DNA and the atom or huge like the heavens of Astronomy, all show the hand of God. It takes more faith NOT to believe in a Creator.
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Post by 12acrehome Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:42 am

ever notice how the atom and the solar system look similar when drawn on paper to the same size? That by itself should scream designed by a creator instead of "oh that's just coincidence"
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Post by Farmfresh Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:05 am

Or the fact that the same EXACT mathematical equation works for the spiral of a galaxy AND the spiral of a snail shell.
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Post by dizzy Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:21 pm

When I started college, I'll admit to being afraid since I knew I was going to be taught evolution. (W/being a biology major, there was no way around that.) And, I was afraid it was going to destroy my faith. But, the more I studied biology, the less sense evolution made.

Not only that, you'd be taught one thing in one class, but something completely different in another class. I had all kinds of notes in the margins of my books challenging what was written. The sad thing was, there was only 1 class where we had an honest, open discussion about creation vs evolution. And, this was in my first biology class on the first day. I hadn't made the study then that I have now. But even so, I was able to point out some stuff.

It's for this very reason that I'm hoping to be able to start my own business talking about nature from a creationist point of view. My tongue hurts and has holes in it from biting it this summer.

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Post by Rohn Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:43 pm

Many years ago I did a study for my church on the book of Genesis. I made out question study guides for the next week and gave them out at each class. It took quite a while to get through the book but it was a very profitable study. I used the book "The Genesis Record" by Henry M. Morris. It is a very well written book and was a great help in my study.

It is very sad that evolution is so excepted in our society and the Bible so left out.
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Post by mountainmama Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:02 pm

To answer amybyrd's question, yes, there were dinosaurs on the ark. The Flood did wipe out lots of them, as we can see in the fossil record. Man's footprints and dino footprints have been found TOGETHER, which proves evolution could not have happened. Evolution says the dinosaurs evolved and died out before man came on the scene. Hieroglyphs have been found that depict man and dinosaurs together, even fire-breathing dinosaurs (dragons.)

The term dinosaur was not used until 1841. Before that, dinosaurs were referred to as "dragons." We have many, many dragon records in many different countries around the world. They were hunted as pests to livestock. Knights would hunt them to prove they were brave and strong. Many dragons were killed during the middle ages as a result.

The legendary cockatrice which had the body and comb of a rooster, but bat-like wings and snakelike tail, sounds a lot like a small pterosaur. The cockatrice appears in scripture and is synonymous with the "fiery flying serpent" which is also a type of pterosaur. Some creation scientists believe the "serpent in the wilderness" was actually one of these flying serpents.

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Post by 12acrehome Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:39 pm

hmm, I had thought the dragons were dinosaurs (only makes sense) but when I used to try to research that theory I was either led into a maze of fiction, or met with stiff resistance...this was back in my school days though
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Post by Rohn Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:42 pm

They sure fit the description of a dragon.
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Post by dizzy Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:57 am

Read the book of Job. There's 2 dinosaurs mentioned in it-the leviathan and the behemoth.

Many people believe that the thunder bird was actually some type of flying dinosaur. And, from all eye witness accounts of the Jersey Devil, it can be one as well.

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Post by CryptidGirl Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:07 am

Dinosaurs and dragons are the same thing. There was even a petroglyph found of a dinosaur that was breathing fire! It's at this link: http://www.genesispark.com/exhibits/evidence/historical/ancient/dinosaur/

Also, I read on a website (atheist-based) that there was nothing that the Jersey Devil could be other than a pterosaur. They have no idea how it could have survived for "millions of years," but according to them, there is nothing else it could be. I actually call it the Jersey Dragon because of its resemblance to a pterosaur. Also, it looks like there are two types of thunderbird: the giant pterosaur (probably something like Quetzalcoatlus) and the teratorn, a giant condor-like bird.

Going along with what mountainmama said, the fiery serpents that attacked the Israelites in the desert were most likely small, venomous pterosaurs. There's an article about it here: http://www.genesispark.com/essays/fiery-serpent/

Also, there is some evidence for the leviathan. There have been some mysterious recordings made near South America & Mexico (Julia, Upsweep, Train, Whistle, The Bloop and others) of a HUGE animal. The microphones that picked up The Bloop were 5,000 km apart. The scientists at the time said that it was definitely an animal voice, but no known animal is that big (judging from the sound's amplitude, several time larger than the blue whale). The "official" report now is that The Bloop was just an icequake in Antarctica, which can be extremely loud underwater. However, The Bloop and the other sounds were recorded near the equator, and the scientists that recorded it said that the audio profile matches an animal's sound. Link to a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_sIaDAYDw0&list=PLE91C5783E546A415
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Post by 12acrehome Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:33 am

If there is someone here who is unfamiliar with AiG (Answers in Genesis) here are a few links you can follow to see for yourself what they do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Answers_in_Genesis

http://www.answersingenesis.org/

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/archive

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Post by dizzy Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:34 am

Hey CG, if you ever come up to Jersey to look for the Jersey Devil, let me know! I'd love to join you. I'm just outside the Pine Barrens-which is where it's said to hang out. And, there have been sightings in this area.

Best sightings were in 1908. There were sightings up and down the state as well as over the river. All the sightings were very similar in description and how the animal acted. People try and say it might be a crane, but the descriptions just don't match. Plus, many of the sightings were in the middle of the night. And, most birds don't fly at night since they can't see.

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