Search
 
 

Display results as :
 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Like/Tweet/+1
Latest topics
» Hilarious video A little garden fun by the cowboy poet Baxter Black
Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:54 am by mountainmama

» Facebook page
Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:48 pm by dizzy

» An Insurrection Coming
Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:52 am by 12acrehome

» Patrice's Patch Garden Journal
Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:47 am by PATRICE IN IL

» lambs and ewes
Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:46 pm by Farmfresh

» Irish Cuisine Class/Demonstration Recipes
Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:13 am by PATRICE IN IL

» Prayer request for my dh's aunt
Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:55 pm by PATRICE IN IL

» How has your day been and what's for dinner...................
Mon Feb 29, 2016 5:43 am by PATRICE IN IL

» Anyone Interested? - Pumpkin Seeds
Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:46 am by PATRICE IN IL

Keywords

Affiliates
free forum

Top posting users this week


Need help with root vegetables

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Need help with root vegetables

Post by Sonshine on Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:32 am

Most of our garden does well, but for some reason we haven't had any luck with our root vegetables. Our potatoes do ok, but no where near the yeild we should be getting. Carrots come out short and fat. We've never been able to get onions or garlic to form bulbs. Could any of you tell me what we're doing wrong? What methods do you use to grow these veggies?

_________________
Sonshine
He who cultivates his land will have plenty of food,
but from idle pursuits a man has his fill of poverty
Proverbs 28:19[b]
avatar
Sonshine
Admin

Posts : 5253
Join date : 2009-05-07
Age : 59

http://christianhomesteader.forumotion.net

Back to top Go down

Re: Need help with root vegetables

Post by Mississippi Momma on Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:02 am

We have the same problems with our root crops. We can't get beets nor turnips to grow large enough for eating. I was thinking it was just us but there must be something missing from the soil.

_________________
Give her of the fruit of her hands: and let her own works praise her in the gates. (Proverbs 31:31)


http://hunnybunnyfarm.blogspot.com
avatar
Mississippi Momma
Admin

Posts : 747
Join date : 2009-05-15

Back to top Go down

Re: Need help with root vegetables

Post by Sonshine on Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:34 am

I'm wondering if it may be because of the clay in the soil. We're going to try more compost in the area we'll be planting our root vegetables this year.

_________________
Sonshine
He who cultivates his land will have plenty of food,
but from idle pursuits a man has his fill of poverty
Proverbs 28:19[b]
avatar
Sonshine
Admin

Posts : 5253
Join date : 2009-05-07
Age : 59

http://christianhomesteader.forumotion.net

Back to top Go down

Re: Need help with root vegetables

Post by 12acrehome on Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:02 am

Hi,
I would say the soil is not loose enough. The clay content is great for water retention, and sand content is good to prevent compaction, but there is more than that going on. If you have a broadfork, use it. The carrots are not able to push deeply into the soil sounds like they are hitting "hardpan". If you do not have a broadfork, you can "double dig" the area. (note tillers just cannot go deeply enough to help with this problem) To double dig start by digging a trench one spit (one shovel (spade) depth and width) Then re-dig that trench another spit deep. add a thin layer of compost and move over just enough to take the next shovel width and turn that top spit into the bottom of the first trench. Then dig the second spit depth in the second trench and put this lower soil on top of the first trench. Do this all the way through the bed you want your root crops to grow in, then mulch with leaves or straw.

_________________
Proverbs 28:19  He who works his land will have abundant food...

Genesis 1:29  Then God said,"I give you every seed bearing plant on the face of the whole earth, and every tree that has fruit with seed in it..."

http://christiancountryramblings.com/
avatar
12acrehome
Admin

Posts : 4596
Join date : 2012-01-27
Age : 49
Location : Sebree, Ky (USA)

https://www.facebook.com/keith.skaggs.9

Back to top Go down

Re: Need help with root vegetables

Post by Sonshine on Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:14 am

Thanks for the info 12acrehome. We don't have a broadfork, but we should be able to do this with our shovel or pitchfork. Hopefully we'll actually have enough root vegetables to get through from harvest to harvest.

_________________
Sonshine
He who cultivates his land will have plenty of food,
but from idle pursuits a man has his fill of poverty
Proverbs 28:19[b]
avatar
Sonshine
Admin

Posts : 5253
Join date : 2009-05-07
Age : 59

http://christianhomesteader.forumotion.net

Back to top Go down

Re: Need help with root vegetables

Post by PATRICE IN IL on Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:29 am

I quit trying to grow root crops in the garden because I still have too much clay, I grow them in containers or grow bags I make from landscape fabric. I have been amending my garden soil for over 9 yrs already and it still has a lot of clay in it. Don't get me wrong, it's much better than when I started, but it still has a way to go.
avatar
PATRICE IN IL
Admin

Posts : 5377
Join date : 2011-01-25
Age : 51
Location : Northern Illinois

Back to top Go down

Re: Need help with root vegetables

Post by 12acrehome on Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:15 pm

What are you amending with? How are you incorporating the ammendments into the soil?

_________________
Proverbs 28:19  He who works his land will have abundant food...

Genesis 1:29  Then God said,"I give you every seed bearing plant on the face of the whole earth, and every tree that has fruit with seed in it..."

http://christiancountryramblings.com/
avatar
12acrehome
Admin

Posts : 4596
Join date : 2012-01-27
Age : 49
Location : Sebree, Ky (USA)

https://www.facebook.com/keith.skaggs.9

Back to top Go down

Re: Need help with root vegetables

Post by PATRICE IN IL on Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:21 pm

I'm amending with chicken manure, straw, leaves, peat moss and cooked compost mainly, early on I add some wood chips to help keep it from compacting too much. Basically anything organic I can get my hands on. This ground was in very poor shape when I started working it. The first couple of years the roto-tiller tines just bounced of the earth when I tried to till it. In the first season or two I added some sand and that was a HUGE mistake, it turned everything almost to concrete, that's when I added the wood chips from a neighbor's freshly cut down tree. I basically am tilling everything in, I spread it on in the Spring and till it in then let it sit a week or so and plant. I don't put raw chicken manure on until the Fall then I just spread it and let it sit over winter.
avatar
PATRICE IN IL
Admin

Posts : 5377
Join date : 2011-01-25
Age : 51
Location : Northern Illinois

Back to top Go down

Re: Need help with root vegetables

Post by 12acrehome on Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:05 am

Well that sounds like what I am trying to do here (and sounds like my first tilling efforts) If that is just not working maybe a raised bed with compost, peat moss and topsoil layered in so that the peat moss is the top layer / seed starter / mulch.

You cannot get the clay to "go away", it is the second finest soil particle (silt being the finest and sand being more coarse). To "dilute" (if you will) the sticky and hardening effects of clay all of my references say add humus. Lawn clippings, shredded leaves, etc. are all recommended, in large quantities. So if all of that is not working and you want to grow carrots, try a different method Wink

_________________
Proverbs 28:19  He who works his land will have abundant food...

Genesis 1:29  Then God said,"I give you every seed bearing plant on the face of the whole earth, and every tree that has fruit with seed in it..."

http://christiancountryramblings.com/
avatar
12acrehome
Admin

Posts : 4596
Join date : 2012-01-27
Age : 49
Location : Sebree, Ky (USA)

https://www.facebook.com/keith.skaggs.9

Back to top Go down

Re: Need help with root vegetables

Post by PATRICE IN IL on Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:05 am

Thanks 12acrehome. The garden soil is improving every season, it's just taking a lot of time to get it back to good rich soil.
avatar
PATRICE IN IL
Admin

Posts : 5377
Join date : 2011-01-25
Age : 51
Location : Northern Illinois

Back to top Go down

Re: Need help with root vegetables

Post by 12acrehome on Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:55 am

you are welcome. Good luck with your garden, sounds like it's just going to take longer than the books and internet sites make it sound.

_________________
Proverbs 28:19  He who works his land will have abundant food...

Genesis 1:29  Then God said,"I give you every seed bearing plant on the face of the whole earth, and every tree that has fruit with seed in it..."

http://christiancountryramblings.com/
avatar
12acrehome
Admin

Posts : 4596
Join date : 2012-01-27
Age : 49
Location : Sebree, Ky (USA)

https://www.facebook.com/keith.skaggs.9

Back to top Go down

Re: Need help with root vegetables

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum