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Post by amybyrd21 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:44 am

http://www.care2.com/causes/study-links-honey-bee-deaths-to-corn-insecticide.html

They think they are a step closer to what is killing off bees. It is the insecticide they use when they put the corn in the ground. We lost one of our bee hives so we are starting off with 5 again. We have fields around the house that have corn every other year. We are now planning to mive our bee hives to where there are no corn fields with in the two miles they tend to roam.

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Post by Sonshine on Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:07 am

Yeah, I had read that and planned on posting it, then forgot. Rolling Eyes Seems I get more forgetful every day.

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Post by 12acrehome on Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:53 am

I had been theorizing that colony collapse was related to industrial farming techniques, but reports from autoposies (yup someone did autopsies on bees) did not show any link to insecticides. At least that is what they said a couple years ago.

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Post by backtotheland on Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:48 am

A friend of mine was going to put a bee hive behind my place where my garden is going to be but the farmer I rent from plants corn behind me over the railroad tracks. I asked him if he sprayed it with anything and he said he used Round-Up but it wouldn't affect the bees. I'm not going to let my friend put his bees down there now.

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Post by amybyrd21 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:53 am

We have had the stuff they spray on corn and soy beans kill goats. The run off from their spray after a rain storm can down our field and we had goats blow up and drop dead before we could do anything. They were healthy and happy goats. The farmer told us we could drink that stuff and be fine. I asked him to drink it and he wouldnt. After this article we are moving our bees to hubby's Uncles house where there are no corn fields for miles just horses and cows.

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Post by 12acrehome on Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:45 pm

backtotheland wrote:A friend of mine was going to put a bee hive behind my place where my garden is going to be but the farmer I rent from plants corn behind me over the railroad tracks. I asked him if he sprayed it with anything and he said he used Round-Up but it wouldn't affect the bees. I'm not going to let my friend put his bees down there now.

Roundup (glyphosphate) while not healthy for the soil, is a defoliant and herbicide, bees should not be affected by it.


We have had the stuff they spray on corn and soy beans kill goats. The run off from their spray after a rain storm can down our field and we had goats blow up and drop dead before we could do anything. They were healthy and happy goats. The farmer told us we could drink that stuff and be fine. I asked him to drink it and he wouldnt. After this article we are moving our bees to hubby's Uncles house where there are no corn fields for miles just horses and cows.


I would own him and all he will ever have. If he sprayed enough of anything to run off and cause that he is beyond negligent, and is criminally liable (federal laws regarding run off, and misuse of regulated chemicals)

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Post by backtotheland on Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:41 pm

I'm lucky as far as the run-off goes. No one close enough to me (beside his field and that is down over the railroad tracks next to the river) plants anything that would run off into my water or on the property. The only think I worry about is all this hydrofracking they are doing around here so I'm going to get my water tested shortly and then every three months as long as I've got milking goats and if anything comes up in the water if they start hydrofracking then I'll have proof. I'm reading a book on my free Kindle app on the computer about that stuff.

Thanks 12acrehome for the information on Roundup.

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Post by 12acrehome on Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:24 am

This was posted on another forum, I am looking for verification, and the source of the info.



The honey bee hasn't had a great time these last few years.
In 2006 some thing new was happening to honey bee hives in America. It Was discovered by a commerical pollinator, one who trucks loads of bees across America pollinating crops like citrus, Almonds , blue berries and apples along with many other crops where the land owner doesn't have honey bees to do the job for him his self. This new thing was named Colony Collapse Disorder , the only thing that was found to be common in this disapperance at first was it was solely the commerical beekeepers who seemed to be effected. Whole colonys will dissappear only leaving the queen a some young workers in the hive.
There were many a thought given to the dissaperance's

Since that first report of CCD millions have been spent on trying to find the answers. Most of the millions are coming from donations from beekeepers in nickles and dimes some times. Some from bussiness who benifit from what the honey bee does for crops. Even Ice Cream making companies are donateing and setting up a percent of sales from some flavores.


They have found an proven some of the findings.

1. Malnutrition

Wild honeybees that remain in nature forage on the diversity of flowers in their habitat, enjoying a variety of pollen and nectar sources.
Honeybees used commercially limit their foraging to specific crops, such as almonds, blueberries, or cherries. Colonies kept by hobbyist beekeepers may fare no better, as suburban and urban neighborhoods offer limited plant diversity. Honeybees fed on single crops, or limited varieties of plants, may suffer nutritional deficiencies that stress their immune systems.


2. Pesticides

Any disappearance of an insect species would implicate pesticide use as a potential cause, and CCD is no exception. Beekeepers are particularly concerned about a possible connection between Colony Collapse Disorder and neonicotinoids, or nicotine-based pesticides. One such pesticide, imidacloprid, is known to affect insects in ways similar to the symptoms of CCD.


3. Genetically Modified Crops

Another suspect in the case is the pollen of genetically modified crops, specifically corn altered to produce Bt (Bacillus thuringiensis) toxin. Most researchers agree that exposure to Bt pollen alone is not a likely cause of Colony Collapse Disorder. Not all hives foraging on Bt pollen succumbed to CCD, and some CCD-impacted colonies never foraged near genetically modified crops. However, a possible link may exist between Bt and disappearing colonies when those bees had compromised health for other reasons. German researchers note a possible correlation between exposure to Bt pollen and compromised immunity to the fungus Nosema


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Post by joyful jean on Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:55 am

This is so frustrating for us beekeepers. So out of our hands when we do not own the field. I do not live in a farming area, just surrounded by a bunch of basswoods that my honeybees love. But none the less, I get very frustrated with the altering of our food & nature.
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Post by Evie1 on Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:26 am

joyful Jean. please don't fret. bees have been dealing with pesticides for years. yes they will die, from pesticides, but only a few. well maybe a few hundred. ((that is bad on us)). ( a good hive is like 10,000)we can make a difference if we try. but for now. the bees will do it themselves. Bees are so industrious. they find the culprit. and block it out. bees have the uncanny ability to see what is killing them. and find a way to block it out. the biggest culprit is the killer bee that kills the whole hive. let loose in America. that is the biggest culprit. not pesticides for now. we have to fight not only pesticides, but killer bees. they will kill you, your pets, and the bee hives. this is are biggest culprit. not poison. you just take care of your bees, and they will take care of themselves. and learn how to recognize the killer bees. its doable.
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