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Post by 7dawn on Tue May 19, 2009 5:05 am

We recently had an interesting conversation concerning the Church being ummm....asked by the government to help encourage their congregations to take part in accepting martial law. We got rather side tracked, but that was the gist of the article as I remember.

We got sidetracked into separation of church and state, then into Obama bowing to King Abdullah, then the tongue and what gossip can do. Some took a middle of the road approach, a few others took a more black and white approach which got our conversation into the blogosphere (something I really stay away from except for one or two and I rarely visit those), media gossip etc...

Here is my question, if what the new reports is all gossip then what source should we use for news? Is everything a shade of grey or is there more black and white out there? If we use the news as a source are we participating in gossip? If we render an opinion concerning a certain news story is it gossip or could there be some fact in there that might be worth discussing?

Should we rationalize everything or are things a little more black and white? Is everything we find on the internet gossip and untrue? Or do we get to pick and choose what we believe to be true? Can we really take a look at the news, our Commander and Cheifs behavior, our governments behavior with what we find on the news and internet and use the Bible to read the signs of the times? We live in an information age. There are many sources of information, newspapers, internet sites, books, magazines...the list goes on. Or, as Chrisitans should we just ignore it and read and pray until we die or Jesus comes back?

What does everyone think?

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Post by Sonshine on Tue May 19, 2009 6:28 am

You already know my thoughts regarding this. We are told to be as wise as serpents and as gentle as doves. Coming from a military background I believe it's wise to know your enemy. You gather information just like you would gather it in the military, you take it all in and sort it out to find the truth. As Christian's we pray for the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to us. I take in information from several sources. I don't believe any of them are un-biases, so by taking it from several places you can begin to get an idea of the truth. Then you can read what the Bible says about what will take place during the last days, and it fleshes out all that information. For instance, this whole thing with Israel that's going on. It appears that the United States is about ready to throw Israel under the bus. If that happens it won't surprise me because as I've said for years, the Bible mentions that no one will come to Israel's aid in the last days. So at some point and time America has to step aside.

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Post by FreeBird58 on Tue May 19, 2009 6:56 am

Knowing just how our news media is , it does'nt hurt to also gather info from news sources from over seas. They don't mind reporting what our media won't.
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Post by Cotton Picker on Tue May 19, 2009 6:56 am

7dawn wrote:
Here is my question, if what the new reports is all gossip then what source should we use for news?
Here's an idea...
Acts 17:11 And the people of Berea were more open-minded than those in Thessalonica, and they listened eagerly to Paul's message. They searched the Scriptures day after day to check up on Paul and Silas, to see if they were really teaching the truth.

It is our duty, to God and to ourselves, to not take into our bodies, ideologies, doctrines and/or dogmas, that will come between us an our relationship to God...

Jesus said...
Matthew 10:16 "Look, I am sending you out as sheep among wolves. Be as wary as snakes and harmless as doves.
This verse indicates to me, that we are to be as sharp as razors, but as inoffensive as we are able to be, with the superior knowledge that we possess... That means that we are not to exploit the weak-willed and weak-minded.. Like what Paul spoke out against...
2Timothy 3:3 They will be unloving and unforgiving; they will slander others and have no self-control; they will be cruel and have no interest in what is good.

2Ti 3:4 They will betray their friends, be reckless, be puffed up with pride, and love pleasure rather than God.

2Ti 3:5 They will act as if they are religious, but they will reject the power that could make them godly. You must stay away from people like that.

2Ti 3:6 They are the kind who work their way into people's homes and win the confidence of vulnerable women who are burdened with the guilt of sin and controlled by many desires.
7dawn wrote:
Should we rationalize everything or are things a little more black and white? We live in an information age. There are many sources of information, newspapers, Internet sites, books, magazines...the list goes on.
We should do this...
John 13:34 So now I am giving you a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other.

John 13:35 Your love for one another will prove to the world that you are my disciples."

Romans 13:8 Pay all your debts, except the debt of love for others. You can never finish paying that! If you love your neighbor, you will fulfill all the requirements of God's law.

Rom 13:9 For the commandments against adultery and murder and stealing and coveting--and any other commandment--are all summed up in this one commandment: "Love your neighbor as yourself."

Rom 13:10 Love does no wrong to anyone, so love satisfies all of God's requirements.

Philippians 4:8 And now, dear brothers and sisters, let me say one more thing as I close this letter. Fix your thoughts on what is true and honorable and right. Think about things that are pure and lovely and admirable. Think about things that are excellent and worthy of praise.

Galatians 6:1 Dear brothers and sisters, if another Christian is overcome by some sin, you who are godly should gently and humbly help that person back onto the right path. And be careful not to fall into the same temptation yourself.

Gal 6:2 Share each other's troubles and problems, and in this way obey the law of Christ.

Gal 6:3 If you think you are too important to help someone in need, you are only fooling yourself. You are really a nobody.

Gal 6:4 Be sure to do what you should, for then you will enjoy the personal satisfaction of having done your work well, and you won't need to compare yourself to anyone else.

Gal 6:5 For we are each responsible for our own conduct.

Hebrews 10:24 Think of ways to encourage one another to outbursts of love and good deeds.
7dawn wrote:
Or, as Christians should we just ignore it and read and pray until we die or Jesus comes back?

While Jesus did say this...
Matthew 6:33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.

Mat 6:34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
He also said this...
Luke 20:25 "Well then," he said, "give to Caesar what belongs to him. But everything that belongs to God must be given to God."

While we are not in a theocracy... We are a democracy... Of the people, By the people, and For the people.... We as citizens of the USA, are in effect, the government of the USA, by birthright... Therefore it behooves us to not forget this...
"No one can find a safe way out for himself if society is sweeping towards destruction. Therefore everyone, in his own interests, must thrust himself vigorously into the intellectual battle. None can stand aside with unconcern; the interests of everyone hang on the result."

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Post by Marie on Tue May 19, 2009 8:56 am

Dawn, I think it's just so hard to know what is the truth and what is just 'talking points', because everything is so politicized.. everyone has their dog in the fight.

Saturday night I watched CSpan BookTV all evening (dh was gone so I could leave it on for hours lol).. There was an interview with Sandra Day O'Connor from 2001 when she wrote her first memoir of growing up on a ranch in Arizona. There was also an interview with a man named Edwin Black, who has investigated and written several books, including one about US corporations aiding Hitler during the Holocaust. Now, a lot of this information did not come out (or wasn't common knowledge) for decades - most people did not know that Henry Ford, GM, IBM, the Rockefellers and many more helped Germany because there was money to be made by selling their technology and materials. At first I thought he must be a kook, but as I listened, he made a lot of sense and I believe what he is saying. He also said that many of the corporations have admitted their involvement, apologized, and have taken steps to aid the survivors.. The last interview I watched was with Mark Rudd, a former member of the Weather Underground, along with Bill Ayers.. he is still a leftist, but it was interesting to listen to him.. and I'd probably read his book. Listening to these people tell their stories in their own words gives a more complete picture than we get from nearly any media other than maybe books by people who have done the work of researching the issues more deeply. And by reading both sides we get a more complete picture as well. Not that I'm going to start reading a pile of books....

...however.. as it pertains to the last days, which I believe we are in.. I ask myself - what can I do to change things... if this has been prophesied then it's going to happen regardless of what we do.. so should we be spending more time on spreading the Gospel and teaching people that what they are seeing is exactly according to Scripture.. or should we spend time lamenting what we see going on.. I don't know the answer to that, to be honest!
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Post by 7dawn on Tue May 19, 2009 10:36 am

Wow...I didn't think there would be so many responses since this was a dead horse, so to speak....

Katrina, I know what you think...LOL...Our views are really similar.

CP...I agree with pretty much everything you said, except for being a democracy. We are a republic that is becoming socialistic and I believe will fall into becoming communistic.

Marie, I believe we should take advantage of everything we can. We are all going to slant one way or another. Everyone does. For those that don't, life and what goes on (in my opinion) becomes relative and to me that is more dangerous than being left or right.

I believe as Christians we should watch what is going on around us, witness to people and above all put the Lord first in our lives. Like Katrina, I believe we are at the beginning of the end and then a whole new beginning. God not only want's us to be prepared with Scriptural knowledge but also spiritual knowledge. Then we have to stop and take a look at how we can prepare physically for what will eventually hit our country and how we can survive to be witnesses to those when it does hit. Never stick your head in the sand. You will end up going tail over head and wonder what hit you. Laughing

Okay, did I make sense??? Probably not, but that was my goal....

Freebird, I agree...I get Dbeka updates all the time and there is quite a bit of overseas info with that update. I think we should look closer at what is going on overseas. After all, that is where everything began.

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Post by Sonshine on Tue May 19, 2009 10:41 am

Marie,
That's an easy one, we spend more time spreading the Gospel and teaching people. The great commission is needed more now than ever before because time is running out. I also believe we should keep an eye on what is going on in the world. Since I don't believe in pre-trib rapture, I believe it's important to see just what the enemy is doing. By doing so we can better protect ourselves, therefore have more time to reach more people. I also believe that the Bible gives clear evidence in preparing for hard times, which is one reason I got so interested in homesteading. I want to learn how to live without the modern conveniences and want to be able to help other Christian's learn.

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Post by Marie on Tue May 19, 2009 10:42 am

Yes, and spiritual preparation also.. so that we are strong through whatever comes..
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Post by Cotton Picker on Tue May 19, 2009 10:52 am

Marie wrote:
...however.. as it pertains to the last days, which I believe we are in.. I ask myself - what can I do to change things... if this has been prophesied then it's going to happen regardless of what we do.. so should we be spending more time on spreading the Gospel and teaching people that what they are seeing is exactly according to Scripture.. or should we spend time lamenting what we see going on.. I don't know the answer to that, to be honest!
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Matthew 9:36 He felt great pity for the crowds that came, because their problems were so great and they didn't know where to go for help. They were like sheep without a shepherd.

Mat 9:37 He said to his disciples, "The harvest is so great, but the workers are so few.

Mat 9:38 So pray to the Lord who is in charge of the harvest; ask him to send out more workers for his fields."

John 4:35 Do you think the work of harvesting will not begin until the summer ends four months from now? Look around you! Vast fields are ripening all around us and are ready now for the harvest.

Jhn 4:36 The harvesters are paid good wages, and the fruit they harvest is people brought to eternal life. What joy awaits both the planter and the harvester alike!

Jhn 4:37 You know the saying, `One person plants and someone else harvests.' And it's true.

Jhn 4:38 I sent you to harvest where you didn't plant; others had already done the work, and you will gather the harvest."

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Post by Marie on Wed May 20, 2009 5:39 am

I was thinking about this topic today.. I think I actually have my tin foil hat on quite a bit tighter than most, I pretty much don't trust anyone.

Something that would be interesting to study, to me, are the events leading up to WW1 and then WW11.. many things happened during those years that paved the way for the events that followed. I think that would be a good way to guage what is going on world-wide now.

I see Drudge has a headline - GM's bankrupty agreement includes government ownership.. These things are just plain creepy, and there is precedent for them....
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Post by 7dawn on Wed May 20, 2009 6:06 am

There are theories out there that state that the Feds and Illuminati helped to start the wars. If you really want to get creeped out, visit the Illuminati's web site....I rarely get really creeped out by stuff but that web site is just down right disturbing....

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Post by Marie on Wed May 20, 2009 2:49 pm

Dawn, I am going to check out that site when I get a chance.. I have an idea what it's like.. I used to listen to a radio program on the way home from work that talked about that stuff. Sometimes I was completely drained and paranoid when I got home. And then had to start supper! lol

I found a good article that made a dent in that big stack of books I was talking about reading Smile. Kinda summarizes what's happening - a revolution. American Thinker: Revolution
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