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Post by 12acrehome on Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:15 am

yes they do, helpers and plants look strong and healthy

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Post by Farmfresh on Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:47 am

I loved all of the roots on those elderberry plants.  I hope they do well.
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Post by Farmfresh on Thu May 22, 2014 10:56 am

Just an update.  The elderberries are growing very well.   cheers 

Today I got 7 currant bushes in the mail.  I have several varieties including black, red and white.  Hopefully I can get them planted in the next day or two.
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Post by PATRICE IN IL on Thu May 22, 2014 11:00 am

Awesome FF! My new trees are coming along nicely and I even have tiny peaches on the new one that had flowers on it when I bought it from Home Depot. Smile
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Post by 12acrehome on Fri May 23, 2014 6:44 am

AWESOME!!!

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Post by 12acrehome on Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:39 am

I'm adding a Nectarine tree to my mini orchard, price is right, and the timing is good. $8.99 from Stark Bros, for a standard tree!! Sale ends June 30. I ordered a dwarf, which oddly costs more, for the ease of maintenance.

http://www.starkbros.com/products/fruit-trees/nectarine-trees/nectacrest-nectarine?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2014-06-26+Nectarest+Nectarine&utm_content=2014-06-26+Nectarest+Nectarine+CID_84530bda81b2c14de3fa14926a37e7e8&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_term=Netacrest%20Nectarine

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Post by PATRICE IN IL on Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:21 am

Good deal on the nectarine tree Keith.
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Post by Rohn on Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:45 pm

Keith,
How many trees do you have in your mini orchard, now?
Also do you need to plant 2 nectarine trees so they will pollinate? I know some trees you do and some you don't. Just wondering.
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Post by Farmfresh on Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:55 pm

My D2 is reaping the benefits this year of my mini orchard at the old house.  The most cherries we ever harvested before would fit into your doubled hands, but now that the tree is maturing the harvest is great.  This is the third year on the black raspberries as well, so really the first real harvest on those as well. 

She has harvested a ton of cherries and has frozen several gallons of black raspberries in addition to those they are eating fresh and cooking with.  I notice that the grape vines are loaded there as well this year.  I am glad that she is able to get the fruit.  It makes starting over here a little easier.
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Post by Rohn on Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:58 pm

It is so exciting to see your plants producing. It is encouraging to hear it.
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Post by 12acrehome on Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:07 am

Rohn wrote:Keith,
How many trees do you have in your mini orchard, now?
Also do you need to plant 2 nectarine trees so they will pollinate?  I know some trees you do and some you don't.  Just wondering.  

This brings the total to 8 trees, 4 bushes, and 1 vine ( 1 grape, 2 blue berry, 2 goji berry aka wolf berry...2 apple, 2 plum, 3 hazelnut / filbert, and this nectarine) This particular one is self pollinating, and no cross pollinator is listed. The same with the grape vine. The apples (Gala and Fuji) Pollinate each other, as do the two varieties of plum trees...hmm just remembered I have a 3rd Plum out front away from the other two, so I guess that makes 9 trees.


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Post by 12acrehome on Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:09 am

Farmfresh wrote:My D2 is reaping the benefits this year of my mini orchard at the old house.  The most cherries we ever harvested before would fit into your doubled hands, but now that the tree is maturing the harvest is great.  This is the third year on the black raspberries as well, so really the first real harvest on those as well. 

She has harvested a ton of cherries and has frozen several gallons of black raspberries in addition to those they are eating fresh and cooking with.  I notice that the grape vines are loaded there as well this year.  I am glad that she is able to get the fruit.  It makes starting over here a little easier.

Makes it nice when you know a family member appreciates your efforts to get everything started.

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Post by Farmfresh on Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:07 am

Yes.  I am glad that it is D2 living there.  She is making up jellies and jams and really getting use out of the fruit.  If it was Geek or D1 they might eat some of it fresh, but that would be about all.
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Post by Farmfresh on Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:14 pm

I was doing a bit of fruit tree research and came across this.  How about growing 3 (or 4) different fruit trees in one hole!  I have done this with roses and it worked great.  I might have to give this a try. 




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Post by 12acrehome on Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:46 am

Well that might do well with some fruits, in some locations, but I don't think it's a good idea across the board. Fruit trees need "open centers" in the canopy for air and light to get through all parts of the canopy. This helps prevent disease and promotes fruit growth. My next thought is "Look at that fine soil he is working with" My soil, being hard clay, would only strangle the roots of trees planted that closely. About the tightest planting recommended by the nurseries I have dealt with was 15 feet spacing, for root growth, canopy health, and to ensure plenty of nutrients for each tree.

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Post by Farmfresh on Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:45 pm

I know that soil would make a HUGE difference.  Multiple trees would have to have high nutrient requirements. 

As for pruning them, he treats the group as one tree.  He still keeps that open center and open canopy. 

This is his pruning video.  He works on the multiple planted trees at 12:00, 15:40 and 17:40.

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Post by Farmfresh on Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:49 pm

12acrehome wrote: About the tightest planting recommended by the nurseries I have dealt with was 15 feet spacing, for root growth, canopy health, and to ensure plenty of nutrients for each tree.
Interestingly when I was researching the commercial cherry tree farms most of them plant 10 feet apart!  They also keep the trees pruned down to 8 to 10 feet tall. 

Things about growing cherries in the past talked about the trees being standard size.  Most stuff shows harvesters on TALL ladders.  Not the case anymore I guess.
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Post by Farmfresh on Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:07 am

I finally received my two dwarf cherry trees yesterday.  They came from Peaceful Valley Farm Organics www.groworganic.com/  The trees themselves came from the Dave Wilson nursery and MAN OH MAN am I impressed!  The trees are huge!  They are about 4 feet tall with trunks about 2 inches thick and wonderful root development.  I paid the same for them as I did my little twiggy trees from the other places.  They were $24.99 each and $20 shipping and handling.  A dwarf Bing cherry and a dwarf Rainer cherry.

I got them planted today and I planted them in the same hole like I was talking about.  I will have to take some pictures to show you all and so we have some "before" pics as well.
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Post by PATRICE IN IL on Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:31 am

Sounds good, can't wait to see the pics.
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Post by Rohn on Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:37 am

That is great. Hope they do real well for you. I'm also looking forward to the pics.
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Post by Farmfresh on Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:47 am

Well it was 7 degrees out there this morning.  Brrr.  Those pics are going to have to wait!  Laughing
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Post by dizzy on Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:40 am

And I thought it got cold here!

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Post by Farmfresh on Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:27 am

Here in the KC area we get the pleasure of both extreme heat with high humidity and bone chilling cold with hard prairie wind chills.  Lucky me.
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Post by 12acrehome on Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:38 am

yeah luck you Woo Hoo

Good luck with those trees!! DW is wanting me to add cherries to our little orchard, might have to copy your order.

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Post by Farmfresh on Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:35 pm

Odd as it seems now may be the time to order.  They have just started shipping the bare root trees.
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