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Post by 12acrehome on Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:03 pm

I ordered what is called a parts kit today.  A few years ago there was a discovery of a cache of old firearms discovered in Nepal.  A company called Atlanta Cutlery has bought most of what was found and now offers the weapons for sale.  Many are simply as is.  These weapons have been "stored" for over 100 years.  I have been looking lustily at these pieces of history for at least 5 years.  Well today I ordered one.  An original 1853 British Enfield (aka the 3-band Enfield) in parts condition with a reproduction wood stock.  I paid a little extra for a "hand select" model in the hopes of being able to shoot it when I get it put together.  I will post the unboxing, and build and hopefully the firing of this piece of history.  Oh for those who are wondering why I am interested in a British muzzleloading Military Rifle, they were imported to the U.S. just prior, and during the early part of the Civil War.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=154




http://www.atlantacutlery.com/p-699-p-1853-enfield-577-caliber-percussion-infantry-rifle-kit.aspx





So follow along as I show off a little Smile

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Post by 12acrehome on Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:32 pm

notified of my order being placed on backorder ...

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Post by Harvey_Birdman on Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:08 pm

I hope it is the best of the bunch brother.

BTW, I love watching Hicok45, he really knows his stuf!
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Post by 12acrehome on Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:15 am

I just hope the old war horse can be made serviceable. 1853 pattern was built and issued to troops from 1853 through 1865 when the cartridge rifles made muzzle loaders obsolete. So the newest it can be is 148 years old.

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Post by Harvey_Birdman on Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:21 am

12acrehome wrote:I just hope the old war horse can be made serviceable.  1853 pattern was built and issued to troops from 1853 through 1865 when the cartridge rifles made muzzle loaders obsolete.  So the newest it can be is 148 years old.

I wish we had a better way to track down what soldier was issued what equipment. I had a 7mm Mauser that had the same serial number on every part. It looked like it had seen quite a bit of use. I alway wanted to find out if it had been used in battle, but couldn't. You may be able to find out info on an American gun than a forign one.
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Post by 12acrehome on Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:21 am

Well, it will depend on the service date. I know it was built by "Tower", but when it was built will be key. There is the possibility of it having seen action in three major battles, and two minor battles, and maybe even the "Indian uprising" as the British historians call it. Since it is coming from "Nepal" which was under British rule when these guns were the most high tech battle rifles there are several possibilities.

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Post by Rohn on Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:04 pm

Very nice 12acres. Hope it is everything you want and more. Love old guns and I'll be anxiously awaiting to see updated to this post.
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Post by 12acrehome on Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:08 pm

no updates yet...still showing back ordered

I hope that means they are actually hand picking the best pieces for me Laughing 

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Post by 12acrehome on Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:52 pm

Ok I am stunned.

UPS showed up about two hours after I left for work, so this was waiting for me when I got home.




Well on unboxing what was billed as a complete parts kit (mostly original parts with a new replica stock, this is what I found...






Here is the Enfield posed with my flintlock





Currently the Enfield sits field stripped, soaking in its first oil bath for at least 148 years.


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Post by PATRICE IN IL on Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:35 pm

Congratulations on getting your "new to you" antique firearm. Smile
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Post by Rohn on Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:11 pm

Congratulations. I'm glad you got it. I'll be looking forward to seeing it as you progress with your restoration. Hope you post pictures all along the way. I'll bet it turns out great. I love old guns.Very Happy 
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Post by 12acrehome on Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:53 pm

thanks Patrice

Yes I intend to document the stage by stage progress of the clean up. Glad you are enjoying this too Rohn. It was amazing to pull a complete(ish) gun out instead of a box of parts. Holding it it feels light and "lively" like a small framed fine english double.

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Post by 12acrehome on Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:35 pm

The internals of the lock are complete, intact and serviceable






It amazes me that these iron parts are still serviceable. Even the original flat springs, which were made one at a time, by hand, are in good condition, with enough power to perform as intended. If things were still made to such standards today, there would be no such thing as a warranty repair.

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Post by Rohn on Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:04 pm

Lookin' good!
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Post by 12acrehome on Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:34 pm

under the grime, hidden from sight I found some of the original hand engraved knurling, and some engraving along the side of the hammer.






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Post by 12acrehome on Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:37 pm

The lock is as cleaned as I am going to take it. Some of the original bluing remains on the lock plate, and everything is in serviceable condition


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Post by 12acrehome on Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:44 pm

One interesting mark, hidden on the inside of the lock plate, was likely put there by the craftsman who originally built the lock



It looks like a shepards hook to me...I'll pretend this was built by a Christian about 150 years ago.


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Post by mountainmama on Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:35 am

This is so neat! I'm glad you're sharing the pics and the process with us.

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Post by 12acrehome on Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:43 am

I'm glad you are enjoying following along

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Post by 12acrehome on Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:42 am

Well after sitting stripped down for several months the old Enfield finally got some attention today.

First I had to get the nipple out of the bolster, to further evaluate what is obviously a well used piece.




After nearly an hour it finally broke free, and came out with the threads unharmed. These are forged iron pieces that were threaded without machine power.




Next up was running a brush through the bore, and freeing up the old ladder sight.








and that bore is MASSIVE!!




Next up is fitting the new stock to the old iron




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Post by PATRICE IN IL on Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:05 pm

Looks like it's coming along nicely. Wink
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Post by mountainmama on Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:40 am

Great pics! Looks like a real nice one.

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